Ouch! My favorite! AAXXss, and I even have an underpair! Rough first hand. I obviously lost more than I had to with my river bet; there probably weren't enough hands that are calling that I'm beating, but remember: pf UTG raises with 7776 around here. River bets with narrow ranges for a call from a worse hand are spots where the best players manage to make money. Maybe that wasn't such a spot, and I'm certainly not one of PLO's best players, but whatever, I have to feel around for those spots to learn where they are.
+$5
OK, a couple hands later, let's get brutalized with AAXXss again to continue our lesson on the horrors of aces...
My $4 is bled off unremarkably, culminating in a suckout for my last buck. I'm going to give this session a fair shot, but if I dip under $300 when it's done, I'm back to the hold'em tanks for recuperation.
+$6
A turned underboat pays off my solid v-bets with the turned second boat for a +$3 hand.
I get AAA5ss on the button, limp, and fold to a bet on a KKJr flop. As much as I just mocked 7776 guy, what do you do with this hand? I mean, you are killing an important out to top set/boat, but if AAXXss is something I raise with, isn't this hand at least something to call with?
(AKK6hh) I flop trip sixes and turn quads. I delayed my turn call for a long pause, and tried to rep a purchase attempt with the river pot-bet. Didn't pay off, maybe not the right line there, but that's the story I tried to tell.
(A442cc) One or two hands later, same villain. I flop middle set, but facing a pb from a reasonable player, I go from "I have a set" thinking to "I have a good boat draw against the straight" thinking. I hit the boat but even though I have him on the straight, it seems better to flat call. It could be an overboat, and I'm announcing my boat with a raise anyway. I try the v-bet on this river this time and get looked up by his flopped straight.
Being down only $3 feels like I'm up right now, so I'm gonna be done, here. One more hand.
LOL
AAAJr, UTG. I fold; gimme my damn $14...
$17 --> $14
93 Hands
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AAA5ss: what are you hoping to hit on the flop? Only if the A5 suit hits, right? 55A or 555 would be perfect flops, but impossible to count on. What else would be an ok flop? Doesn't feel like a good calling hand to me.
What do you do when 234r comes? Crying call all the way through the river and lose to 56?
Nut flush draw and overpair is a great flop. Overpairs on dry boards can win PLO hands. Again, position. I fold AAAJ UTG (rainbow, granted) later, but I'm expecting good information from my position. Much more willing to call there when I can manage the flop from the button.
But if AA72ss is a raising hand, does the removal of one set out (and one "random trips" out for whatever card the third ace is replacing) really turn it from a raising hand into a folding hand?
I ran AAA5ss vs. a random hand, and AA72ss, and it was 60.5/39.5 for trip aces, 66/34 for AA72ss. Then, for kicks, AAKKss against random, which returned 67.7/32.3. So, your equity against a random hand drops by 7.5% from AAKKss to AAA5ss. When I make it AAA5r, is drops to 57/43. Finally, AAKKds against a random is 70.7/29.3.
I would have folded if there wasn't a chance at the nut flush. Suited aces are just great in PLO, because of the nuts factor. Sure, your overpair *might* be good in PLO, but it's so hard to tell. A final consideration is that with three aces, you have blockers to two of the nut flushes, which is info you can use in a better game, where a player with the king-high flush might fold to severe pressure from the player holding the nut blocker.
I guess my conclusion is that it loses significant value, but in position with the suited ace, it's OK to call and look for the flush draw, and potentially take it down with a bet on a dry board when your overpair looks good.
What happened to O8? I tried some Omaha earlier in the challenge but did not feel that I was that much better than the villains.
Be careful of thinking you can get people to fold with blockers and dry aces in internet play. Live play, completely agree as people don't want to be embarrassed by the table. Internet play, people call much more often and assume the opponents are donks. I have had very limited, if any success bluffing with dry aces on line.
Need to pack for my flight, I'll post tomorrow.
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